First, thank you for this website and your common-sense,
brutally honest answers. I have two questions. First, is
there a point at which phone contact crosses the line
from "reasonable" to obsessive and excessive? Let me
explain...My former husband and I share 50/50 legal and
physical custody of our 7-year old daughter. She spends
half of each week with each of us, with alternating long
weekends (Ex: Tues-Thurs. nights with me one week, Wed.-
Sat. night w/me the following week). Our parenting plan
states we are each allowed reasonable phone visitation. I
live 2 1/2 blocks from my ex. and we have very frequent
contact with each other, almost daily, and sometimes
several times a day (frankly, I think he makes excuses to
contact me for silly things that he could figure out
himself). We both try to speak to our daughter every day
for a minute, usually in the evenings. However, if I know
her and her dad are doing something together, and I don't
reach her, I don't obsessively call until I do. I figure
she's entitled to have a life with him, and I don't need
to constantly insert myself into their time together. She
is old enough now that often when something happens that
she wants to share with one of us, she picks up the phone
and calls the other parent whenever she feels like it,
which we are both fine with. My concern is with how
frequently her dad calls her. I feel there should be a
balance between both of our desire to talk to her and both
of us being able to have a life and routine with her
without having to be interrupted by phone calls all the
time. Neither one of us has ever restricted phone
contact, but nor do I feel that I have to answer my cell
phone in the car, at the mall, while we're visiting
family, during holiday celebrations with family, while at
the beach, etc. the instant he calls. Especially since
I've always let her call him at will, and if we're
otherwise occupied and see the he's called, I have her
call him later when we get home. However, he tends to get
obsessive, and if I don't answer my cell phone, will call
every 30 minutes or so, both at home and on my cell phone
until he reaches her. One time recently he called on a
Saturday while she was outside playing with friends, and I
told him I'd have her call him later. It ended up being a
busy day with a visit to my in-laws later, and she fell
asleep on the way home that evening. I noticed that while
we were gone during a 5 hour period, he called the house 5
times. He picked her up the next morning at 8:30 a.m. as
scheduled. The next day I called to speak to her, and he
said she was "busy" coloring , and she'd have to call me
later. He then asked me how I liked being treated this
way, and he'd be sure to have her call me back as quickly
as I did the day before. By the way, my cell phone is
company issued, and I pay for all personal calls made or
received on it. I've told him this, and asked him to keep
calls to my cell phone to a minimum, but he disregards
this. I've also asked him to call before 8 p.m. on school
nights, as she's in bed by 8:45, and we're doing bedtime
routine (baths, reading, etc. by 8:00. Many times if he's
busy, he'll call as soon as he becomes available, with no
regard for the time. He's called as late as 10 p.m.
before, and many times has called after 9 p.m. and becomes
annoyed when I say she's asleep and will have to call him
in the morning. It isn't ucommon for him to speak to her
early in the evening, and then call back 2 hours or less
later to tell her good night. Honestly, I think he calls
so frequently more because of control issues with me,
rather than needing to connect with her. Any suggestions
for setting some reasonable boundaries for his phone calls
without him feeling like I'm restricting his access to his
daughter? Keep in mind, she knows both of our cell phone
and home phone numbers and is free to call either of us on
either number whenever she feels like it. She also walks
to school in the mornings with kids that live next door to
her dad, and usually stops to give him a hug and tell
him "hello" every school day morning. So, it isn't as if
he isn't fully involved in her life, and doesn't ever get
to see or speak to her.
I think you describe a man who's calling an unreasonable number of times.
That said, with your one example, let's not kid ourselves and claim that there was NO time (in the car, at any place) where you could have said, "Hey sweetie, daddy called while you were playing... how about giving him a call real quick."
It was more important to you to control the situation and make him wait. Maybe you did it out of resentment for him calling so much, or maybe that's just who you are. But that's the situation with that example, right?
I suggest you say, "Look, it seems like there's some frustration with calling our daughter, so let's set some ground rules that are reasonable... so we can keep the peace between us."
Propose to make it stipulated orders, if he wants, to demonstrate how serious you're taking it and want him to take it.
1. Child may freely call either parent, as much as she wishes.
2. Either parent may call once per day while child is with the other parent.
3. Parents will have child return any message left between 9am and 7pm, as soon as reasonably possible, not to exceed a wait of 3 hours, so that child may talk with parent who called.
Something like that should solve everything (and it's probably very close to what a judge would feel is reasonable).
If you can't come to middle-ground terms, you two will increasingly play the phone games, get frustrated, and harm the co-parenting relationship that is so important to your kid.
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